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Nope 5 stars The longer I sit with it, the better it gets.I started reading this book with a Dunnett group on Yahoo, but shortly got frustrated because it went so slow and there was virtually no discussion as many including me were first time readers and they re Nazis about spoilers Personally, I don t mind spoilers and sometimes even seek them out Spoilers implies that all there is to a book is the plot and what happens, and if I know that then the whole book is spoiled Since this is the story [...]
This is a tough book to rate, it is in turns so dense as to be almost incomprehensible unless you re a historian and then utterly brilliant There were long stretches that I almost abandoned the book and then times when I couldn t put it down and read long into the night So while I have to say the writing is than a bit uneven in my opinion, it s still Dunnett and you close the book knowing that you missed many of the subtleties and nuances on a first reading I must say that Dunnett s characteriz [...]
Having read the Lymond and Niccolo series and being completely captivated by them I was hesitant to embark on this novel about Thorfinn otherwise known as Macbeth I couldn t see how any other novel by this gifted author could be on par or surpass them This is a dense read that requires patience and perseverance It took a while to sort out the different characters and the names were often similar which initially threw me a bit Often had to refer to the maps and genealogical pages supplied.There a [...]
Forget Shakespeare, this is the real Macbeth as Dunnett imagines him Half christian, half pagan half Scottish, half Norse Macbeth grows before our eyes from an unprepossessing and angry boy, to a man, a warrior and a king.Like Dunnett s other magisterial books the Lymond chronicles and House of Niccolo this isn t ever an easy, formulaic or comfortable read, and the intricacies of the politics means that you have to read this than once to have even a hope of understanding what is happening, but [...]
I had never read Shakespeare s Macbeth, and really didn t know the story, in fact I thought he was a fictitious character, so this was new territory for me The book starts with so many Viking names and places I felt lost after a chapter or two But, I persevered, and must say it was a very satisfying book Dorothy Dunnett at her best Reared from the age of 5 by a foster father in the Orkneys, Thorfinn, the Earl of Orkney lives the hard but adventurous life in the north of early Scotland, surrounde [...]
After reading two parts of the four from this enormous book, 400 pages or thereabouts, I gave up with regret than I d have anticipated partly because I was enthusiastic about finding out a historical rendition of the life of the real Macbeth behind Shakespeare s play, and partly because this author had given me great moments before, only to fail me afterwards, so I d hoped this would be the definite rebound.But no, it wasn t I m starting to think Dunnett doesn t know what moderation and balance [...]
If George Mackay Brown s Vinland was the kind of historical novel that uses history to make a statement about the present, then King Hereafter is the kind that attempts to immerse its readers as fully as possible in the past, not just by describing historical events but by trying to recreate the mindset of their chosen period, by making their readers think, feel and see the way their characters did, ideally without having a present point of view intrude on the scene at all Nobody at least nobody [...]
In which Dorothy Dunnett conflates two semi apocryphal historical figures Thorfinn the Mighty from one of the Icelandic sagas and Macbeth from that play you were probably made to read in high school or in college.Basically, we begin with young Thorfinn back in the 11th Century and follow him as he becomes first Earl of Orkney, then eventually King of Alba early Scotland And then, of course, things begin to go horribly, horribly wrong Oh, and when Thorfinn takes the White Christ, his given christ [...]
Review written in 2004 My first Dunnett, and it s a crackerjack OK, a big, fat crackerjack historical novel about 11th century Britain, specifically on the life of the maybe historic King Macbeth, who ruled Orkney and northern Scotland 1040 1058 For good measure, we get Lady Godiva, too Plus Duncan, Malcolm, and Duke William waiting for his Big Moment in 1066, over there in Normandy.Background dorothydunnett dunneShe read some 700 books for KH And compiled 145 interlocking European family trees, [...]
One day, Sulien said, I think the Throne of St Peter will be as firm as it seemed, for a moment, it might be I think the Empire will find a design by which to rule that does not break down between one prince and the next I think the storms will subside and as nation settles by nation, there will be a place for quiet rule, and for building.Till then, it will be the fate of most leaders to die in their prime, and the fate of most women to carry forward their essence their habit of mind their spiri [...]
Dunnett is not for me personally, though I appreciated her occasional flashes of brilliance Most of this novel was dense, turgid and impenetrable absolutely unreadable I wanted exposure to her conception of the real Macbeth, since Shakespeare really maligned the guy I forced myself to plod through this slower than molasses book The different family trees helped, but as a GR Friend mentioned to me, judicious footnoting would not have gone amiss.
This is a monumental historical novel about Thorfinn, Earl of Orkney, who Dunnett, after much research, became convinced was identical to the Macbeth of Shakespeare s play most historians apparently believe that these two contemporaneous early 11th century rulers were cousins Dunnett s work is the story of Thorfinn s progress from a ruler of part of the Orkney Islands, just north of Scotland, to a position of king of all Scotland Alba , and how he then lost the kingship The story itself is fasci [...]
I just finished reading this for the first time, and I m still recovering I m in a lot of wonderful Dunnett style pain at the moment.I ve read Dunnett before, having devoured The Lymond Chronicles around this time last year, so I had an idea of what to expect I knew to prepare myself to feeling confused and in over my head, and to brace myself for meticulous historical detail that I no doubt would struggle to follow And I m glad I did because a lot of the importance of the history was lost on me [...]
This is perhaps my favorite book of all time First, the historical detail is incredible although there are some who fault her for fusing two real leaders In addition, the plot is tightly woven so that any loose strings are eventually gathered in the end, which is important to me I hate it when authors bring in people or events and then never refer to them again.I especially love her characterization Thorfinn Macbeth has his flaws, and we always see how thoughtful he is about the decisions he mak [...]
Wow So, that took a long time to finish Which is probably a big hint towards my feelings about King Hereafter I waffled on my star rating, because in the end this isn t a book I d read again and I ll be careful with my recommendations But at the same time, it s Dorothy Dunnett I love her I ve read both of her ginormous series and enjoyed them tons and tons and it s not like her writing took a sudden dive in this particular book.It breaks down like this On the plus side we have Dunnett s firm gra [...]
What a complicated review this is to write And it will be a super short one to boot I do not want to give this book two stars The writing quality alone deserves five stars But what else should I give a book that I have tried twice to read and have never gotten passed about 100 pages Something about the story and plot simply isn t engaging enough for me It is kind of a boring story and when you have so many books you want to willingly read in your year, it is hard to keep focus on a book you feel [...]
I wrote down few impressions, listed things that didn t sit well with me and deleted it all I am too stupid to pass judgement on Dunnett s craft but I ll say this about the main character she created I would forfeit millions of lives today to gain one like Thorfinn.
A long but fascinating story about Macbeth which still lingers in my mind at the oddest moments Haunting story.
King HereafterThis book qualifies as Advanced Reading Although each sentence is a work of art, and the construction of the novel is masterful, it s not a tale you just gallop through Rather, it must be read like some poetry, by immersing yourself into the words and images and allowing them to create an experience that engages your mind on than one level For 720 densely packed pages in the oversize paperback edition.There s also an enormous cast of characters who move all over northern and weste [...]
I actually read all Dorothy Dunnett s historical fiction this fall, rereading in the case of the Lymond series, but this is the only stand alone book It s definitely my sort of thing There s a part where it dissolves into a thousand similar names and places, and when the going gets tough, the characters get cryptic, but I just read on until the story revealed what was bothering them The Lymond books put romantic adventurous characters in a wonderful and vivid historical background, but in the la [...]
I have now read this book 3 times, and I agree with Dorothy Dunnett that this is her master work It is a difficult book to tackle Like most of Dunnett s characters, you don t learn much directly about what her main characters are thinking After an incredible amount of research, Dunnett became convinced that Thorfinn, Earl of Orkney and Caithness a documented, real person , and MacBeth, King of Alba another documented, real person , were, in fact, the same person This book is about how Thorfinn b [...]
Dunnett is one of my favorite authors and while this may not be my favorite novel from her I m a Lymond fan first and foremost , I still very much enjoyed it She s a challenging author to read, which is one of the reasons I like her, and this book is classic Dunnett, densely packed with political intrigue and literal empire building It does seem to get bogged down in spots but on the first read, it s the main characters and the love stories not just romantic but paternal and fraternal as well th [...]
King Hereafter by Dorothy DunnettWho was the real Macbeth, and did he visit Chester in England According to the research by historical novelist Dorothy Dunnett, he was the 11th Century Thorfinn Sigurdason, Earl of Caithness Orkney and lived in the times of King Canute, Earl Leofric of Mercia and his wife Lady Godiva.His father was disputed, so he was named after his mother Beatha, hence the name Macbeth His enemy was Rognvald.This fascinating story published by Arrow Books is love story of Thorf [...]
A rich and deeply satisfying evocation of characters, time and place which had been reduced to almost cartoon status after Shakespeare DD does not need to compete with Shakespeare who had his own historical rules to follow , and if this wasn t Macbeth s true story, it should have been.One of those books I look forward to re reading every few years.
A brilliant book Hard to get into at first, even with being familiar with Dorothy s elliptical style, partly due to the unfamiliar 11C period But well worth the effort My choice as my Desert Island Book as I could not choose another Dunnett book without wanting the rest of the series as well.
Excellent As good a historical novel as you could ever wish for.
Originally published on my blog here in March 1999.Dorothy Dunnett s novel of Scotland in the Dark Ages concerns the historical Macbeth or does it She certainly knows about the situation in eleventh century Scotland than Shakespeare did Macbeth ruled just before the Norman conquest of England , but her plot relies on an identification between two historical characters Macbeth, she assumes, was in fact the baptismal name of the Viking Earl of Orkney, Thorfinn II.In some ways, this works quite we [...]
Even though I got an off taste from the little bit of Dunnett I ve read which is only a matter of pages , Macbeth is my favorite of Shakespeare s plays, so I thought I d give this one a chance The story is really built around the idea that the actual Scottish king Macbeth and a half Viking Earl of Orkney named Thorfinn were the same person there s no real connection to the play, except for depictions of a few events that become part of the myth around Macbeth which inspired Shakespeare, like the [...]
This book was written in 1981 Dorothy Dunnett was a favorite author, and I reread this book and her Lymond Chronicles many times, but for some reason never read either of her other two series I never owned copies of these books because they were easy to find at any library, until, of course they wore out and were discarded At that point all of the author s books were out of print I went on to other authors and other books.I located an inexpensive used copy of the book through And I have to admit [...]
I don t give too many book 5 stars, but this one deserves every one of them I first read King Hereafter years ago, when it was originally published Recently, when adventures in genealogy got me interested in this era, I remember this book and got my hands on a new copy as I d gotten rid of my original all those years ago.This is historical fiction at its best The story and characters are great, and the research behind it is flawless Too many times these days, publishers pass off poorly written b [...]